Issue 19211 - Point out the difference between outline numbering and numbered lists
Summary: Point out the difference between outline numbering and numbered lists
Status: CONFIRMED
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: ui (show other issues)
Version: OOo 1.0.1
Hardware: PC All
: P3 Trivial with 2 votes (vote)
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Keywords: oooqa
: 9552 (view as issue list)
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Reported: 2003-09-07 15:23 UTC by pinguino
Modified: 2013-02-07 22:40 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Issue Type: ENHANCEMENT
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Description pinguino 2003-09-07 15:23:18 UTC
Open Openoffice with a blank text document (sxw). Insert a heading 1: 
Format->Styles->Catalogue->(Paragraph Styles)Heading 1, OK. Add a little 
text to the heading.

Edit this heading so it uses numbering: 
Format->Styles->Catalogue->(Paragraph Styles)Heading 
1->Modify->Numbering->Numbering Style->Numbering 1, OK, OK.

Now edit Numbering 1 to use an outline style: 
Format->Styles->Catalogue->(Numbering Styles)Numbering 
1->Modify->Outline->Bottom row, third from left block (It shows
 1
  1.1
   1.1.1.
    etc.

    OK, OK

In the text document add some blank lines (ie, press Return three times)

Insert a heading 2: Format->Styles->Catalogue->(Paragraph Styles)Heading 2, 
OK.

Add some text to the heading.

Edit Heading 2 to follow heading 1 style: 
Format->Styles->Catalogue->(Paragraph Styles)Heading 
2->Modify->Organizer->Linked with->Heading 1, OK, OK.

In the text document, for me, this 'heading 2' is numbered 2, not 1.1 as 
expected.
Comment 1 jack.warchold 2003-09-08 15:17:42 UTC
reassigned to jw
Comment 2 jack.warchold 2003-09-08 15:48:36 UTC
just do the following

Type your headings

heading 1 (set as heading1 like you did)

heading 2 (set as heading1 like you did)

then call the outlinenumbering dialog menu tools -> outlinenumbering

select "level" 1-10 or just evry level one after a nother if you like 
to set diffent styles. select "Number" -> choose "1, 2, 3,..." press 
ok chould now look like you whant it

set to WFM
Comment 3 pinguino 2003-09-12 19:45:26 UTC
No, your new method does not work either.
Comment 4 pinguino 2003-09-12 19:56:56 UTC
Ah, it does work, but you missed out a stage. 

Tools->Outline Numbering->Show sublevels must be set appropriatly.

I can find no method of doing this for my original method.

If numbering doesn't work in Styles, shouldn't it be removed? Or 
does it work in newer versions?
Comment 5 jack.warchold 2003-09-16 09:10:51 UTC
sorry for my mistake

you can use your method either

but then it looks like in the outline preview

1
 1.1
   1.1.1
etc.

after setting and formating the heading 2 set the caret in front of 
the 2 and press tab, the number should change from 2 to 1.1

i will close this issue
Comment 6 jack.warchold 2003-09-16 09:39:33 UTC
closed
Comment 7 pinguino 2003-09-21 12:01:52 UTC
Sorry to be a pain, but I think there is still some issues here.

I agree that outlining does work using styles, but to use it, as 
you say, you must use the tab key at the beginning of the text.

There are two issues here:

1) Isn't this a bit of an odd way of doing things, it's not 
exactly intuitive (well I would never have guessed this method).

2) I can find no reference to this in the documentation. If this 
is how it should work, shouldn't it be in the user 
documentation?
Comment 8 jack.warchold 2003-09-22 13:26:53 UTC
yes this might bee an enhancement for future versions. even if just 
setting it into the documentation.

reassigned to bh

set issuetype to enhancement
Comment 9 guido.pinkernell 2004-02-12 16:00:03 UTC
Online help does provide an entry on how to use outline numbering. Just press
F1, then choose index and type "outline".

I think the main problem here as well as with other similar issues is that, when
looking for some "numbering feature", one doesn't start with differentiating
between outline numbering and numbered lists. They are very different concepts
but look very much alike.

I have no idea how a GUI should look like to prevent people from mixing them up.
But to have it changed so that people don't do it is important nevertheless.

So I will change the summary accordingly and set to New.
Comment 10 guido.pinkernell 2004-02-12 16:01:57 UTC
*** Issue 9552 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 11 pinguino 2004-02-13 00:12:59 UTC
For me an improvement would be if the default, when using heading numbering, was 
heading 1 giving 1 heading 2 giving 1.1 etc. I think this is the most common use 
isn't it? I only got confused because I had to configure something that I 
expected to be default.
Comment 12 guido.pinkernell 2004-02-14 15:33:44 UTC
Pinguino, I have filed another RFE to enable chapter outline numbering by
default. You can vote for it if you like:
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=25489
Comment 13 guido.pinkernell 2004-02-14 15:42:53 UTC
Changed summary back.
I apologize, it got changed involuntarily.
Comment 14 guido.pinkernell 2004-02-14 15:46:44 UTC
"oint out the difference ..." LOL!

I am making a mess of this Issue. So sorry.
Summary changed again and checked it three times before submitting.
Comment 15 rblackeagle 2004-02-14 16:19:47 UTC
This is another plea for the user to be able to chose the format and have it
work as expected.  There are several of these and they seem to crop up with a
new user (on the user's list) at least weekly and often more frequently.  If the
goal is to make OOo as user-friendly as possible, the test is how well a change
reduces requests for help from new users.  If it increases those requests, it is
a bad change.  If it reduces them, it has worked as expected.  This one does not
currently work as expected.  It definitely needs clarification or changing.
Comment 16 ace_dent 2008-05-16 02:56:29 UTC
OpenOffice.org Issue Tracker - Feedback Request.

The Issue you raised has the status 'New' pending further action, but has not
been updated within the last 4 years. Please consider re-testing with one of the
latest versions of OOo, as the problem(s) may have already been addressed.
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Many thanks,
Andrew
 
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Comment 17 bettina.haberer 2010-05-21 14:53:39 UTC
To grep the issues easier via "requirements" I put the issues currently lying on
my owner to the owner "requirements".