Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Issue 20853
simplify delete caption of picture
Last modified: 2013-02-07 22:37:24 UTC
Can select picture, and add caption just fine. Doesn't seem to be a way to delete it. Attempts to change the caption using the UI result in additional captions on the picture, rather than a single caption of the selected type. *** also *** Help has an entry for "deleting a caption" but it leads to "defining a caption"
Created attachment 10087 [details] short doc with examples of issue (just added .zip to filename)
*** Issue 20852 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Changing or deleting a caption once it has been inserted is easy once one understands what OOo does when one does > Insert > Caption ... Which is simply that OOo puts the graphic (or other items) into a frame and puts the caption under the graphic but inside the frame. This actually is described in the Help file "Defining a Caption". So the simplest thing to edit a caption type is to delete it and reinsert it; and deleting means to delete the frame but not the graphic. What I do is cut out the graphic, delete the frame and then reinsert the graphic. What Help suggests on deleting captions I can´t tell, here the reporter is right. Although Online Help Index does list a caption delete help file, it´s not there. So it´s definitely not a bug. But it may be taken as an enhancement request for simplifying the delete caption process and, of course, updating the Help file. Issue changed to Enhancement, rewritten summary accordingly.
Confirmed on Win98 and set to New
JA->BH: reassigning as enhancement request to you
The current situation has some negative effects: If a user is simply pasting a graphic, it is no big deal to cut the graphic, edlete the frame, and re-paste the graphic. However, if a slightly more advanced user chooses to LINK graphics rather than simply embedding them- They must re-browse or re-locate the graphic, place it, perform any sizing and placement operations again. In addition, if the graphic is to be NAMED for reference in the document, the naming process must be repeated. The current situation is suitable for amateurs only!
difficult/confusing to "change" the numbering options for a graphic or frame. Ie: to change from "Illustration" to "figure", to change numbering style, etc.
Without wanting to sound melodramitic, I really did try on three occasions to sort out this caption thing, without success. All my attempts resulted in multiple captions. As a GUI programmer, I don't consider myself a novice. I always knew I could cut the image, delete the frame and paste but I was convinced that I would be able to get to the same caption edit box that I used to create it the first place. Its almost like using file system without a move command; I can always use copy+delete but that's not what I'm thinking. I put this fix into a release sooner than later as it's really easy to run into it really early on. Trust me, I was tearing my hair out. Regards, Brendon McLean.
I thought there might have been an option to remove captions somewhere in the menus or in a dialogue in OOo 1.1 RC3 (not 1.1.1 RC3), but I cannot find it anymore. Another possibility is to select the image which is captionized and anchoring it at page. Thereby it leaves the frame and the frame can be deleted without the image being removed. The image gets resized however. (It als leaves its position as determined by the images 1,1 pixel but this can be undone by anchoring it at paragraph after the frames removal.) Now is this resizing (and movement) a defect or is this intendend? Also, if there is a possibility to remove the caption, this has probably a relation to the Frame.
*** Issue 27247 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
The problem (i.e., caption cannot be deleted) still exists in OOo 2.0.2. The suggestion to cut and paste the picture really sounds like a workaround to most users. [Confirmed during Italian QA tests]
cut and paste the graphic is not a workaround. This's like: oh the app has a bug and crashes. Workaround: Write your text anew in Ms Word and paste it into OOo Writer. Recommending cutting and pasting graphics on huge documents is a joke because of document reflow processes. A MS Word user would cry at you.
*** Issue 19190 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
To grep the issues easier via "requirements" I put the issues currently lying on my owner to the owner "requirements".