Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla – Issue 56997
Mismatches between UI measures (rounding errors displayed)
Last modified: 2017-05-20 11:25:59 UTC
My default settings are: 12.51 mm for tabs 12.7 mm indents for bullets and numbering (minimum 6.4 mm) 50.01 mm list indent 40.01 mm marginalia 6.35 list 1 4.99 mm first line indent This inconsistency means that nothing lines up without resetting. Could the defaults be based on consistent intervals for example multiples of 1, 2 and 5? GB version
Correction, the version is US.
Reassigned to SBA.
john_johnson, please specify where do you see all those values.
Tabs: can be seen by counting. My ruler is in mm. Set the page to A3 landscape. I count 30 tabs for 372 mm (which is 12.4, not 12.51 but still odd). Perhaps I got the 12.51 value from somewhere else. Bullets: Select 'Format' menu, 'Bullets and numbering'. Select the 'Position' tab. Look at the 'Spacing to text' field. Mine says '6.4mm'. List indent: Select 'Format' menu, 'Styles and formatting'. Right mouse click on 'List indent' option near the bottom. Select 'Modify'. Select 'Indents and spacing' tab. Look at the 'Before text' field. Mine says '50.01mm'. Marginalia: Select 'Format' menu, 'Styles and formatting'. Right mouse click on 'Marginalia'. Select 'Modify'. Select 'Indents and spacing' tab. Look at the 'Before text' field. Mine says '40.01mm'. List 1: I can't remember where I find this. First line indent: Select 'Format' menu, 'Paragraph'. Select 'Indents and spacing' tab. Look at the 'First line' field. Mine says '4.99mm'. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.8.0.6) Gecko/20060728 Firefox/1.5.0.6 Hope that helps.
I don't have exactly the same values. I think it's not a defect but an enhancement but it is necessary to suggest new and consistent default values. Low priority for me.
SBA: Confirmed. In OOo 3.0 on WinXP, I have a default tab stop of "1,25 cm". Switching the unit to mm makes it 12,51 mm (Tools-Options-Writer-General). And this seems to show the digit where the rounding errors show. It can not be set to 12,50mm and stay there. SBA->OS: I think we spoke about this. I remember that the underlying measure triggers "rounding errors" for all offered units (inch, cm, mm, point, pica) because a "realistic amount of digits" is calculated. It looks like two digits extra could erase this problem. But at what cost? I doubt that the naked eye can see things on paper that are dislocated 1/100th of a millimeter. We are not in the counterfeit money business here :-) Please comment, thx. I do not regard this a defect. Set type to "Enhancement".
I don't mind if it is an enhancement or a defect. I agree that 0.01 mm resolution seems excessive. However, the 6.35 mm default value that I quoted is almost certainly an exact conversion from 1/4 inch. The interface does not support an exact conversion from 1/8 inches because that would be three decimal places (3.175 inches). I am a metric user and I want my defaults to be in multiples of 2, 5, or 10 mm. I did think that OpenOffice would work internally with metric units and only convert to inches, points, or picas at the interface. However, from your comments, it seems that it doesn't and I wonder if that is why we are getting odd results. So I have the following questions: 1. Can the internal OpenOffice calculations be done in the metric system? This should eliminate these rounding errors. 2. Can a metric user have rational metric defaults rather than a conversion from inches?
SBA: I adjust the summary to reflect the findings. SBA->OS: Please proceed, thx.
Reset assigne to the default "issues@openoffice.apache.org".